Immortality – Curing Disease & Aging, Telomeres, Stem Cells, Testosterone, Vegan Diet [Part 1]

Nick: So if we think about it, the human body is designed to live a certain period of time Right now, there are only 70 people in the world that are past 110 years of age, only 70 in the entire world

So something happens past 110 where the telomeres stop replicating, where the mitochondria stops producing energy, where the enzymes start recycling and the body just ends, much like every animal on the planet Although there are some animals that live considerably longer, aren't there, Dr Grossman? Michael: We have the one-celled animals that live forever because they keep dividing, but then, there are animals that will live 150 years We have trees that live for thousands of years but those are a process We don't know all the information about why humans don't live longer, but there's no good reason that we can't solve as to why humans don't live longer

So we are making a lot of progress to figure out what it takes human beings to live longer And we can be immortal There's no reason why we can't Logically, scientifically, we should be able to live a long, long time Nick: If we think about it, right now, they're harnessing super computers

Google spent billions of dollars now to figure out aging and anti-aging and longevity We're searching the world literature to find out what is those missing links What is it we forgot or missed that we can put together that will actually improve the quality and the length of life and quite probably, accomplish, if not immortality, possibly 200, 300, 400 years of life in good health? I know when I first started contemplating that I could improve my health, it began with hormone decline And as I started hormonal tests at the young age of 28, my hormones were starting to decline already by the age of 28 I don't know of any 28 year olds running around trying to measure their own hormone levels with doctors to find out where they're at

But the signs of aging were starting to set in Michael: Hormone loss is sort of accepted as a natural part of aging but there's no reason why it has to be that way For unknown reasons, women go into menopause and we don't know why it happens in someone at 30 and some woman at 65 But there are many different ages And right now, the technology is that we can cheat the aging process by replacing the hormones that are going down

Now in some point, we're going to have better technology where we can use stem cells and repair the telomeres so that people stay ongoingly healthy But for now, the technology is that if we replace the hormone levels of people who are getting older back to more youthful levels, they will feel more youthful in so many ways So that's something that I do every day, and it's like dramatic It's not like subtle Some things you do are subtle where you feel better, but hormone replacement therapy is dramatic

So women all the time, when they go into menopause, 90% of women after they're in menopause for five years, their brain doesn't work good They don't sleep good They don't have energy They don't have moods They are irritable

They have no libido And that's all reversible with natural human bioidentical hormone replacement and it's dramatic how that makes people feel more youthful And men don't get that dramatic effect For men, their testosterone levels and other hormone levels go down slowly over the period of years Every five years, it gets worse and worse and they feel older and older, but they don't get a sudden change

And for men, when we replace their hormone levels back to youthful levels, they will get dramatically younger in so many ways, not just muscle strength and stamina, but brain clarity, enthusiasm I've seen so many men who just lose their enthusiasm for life They just feel like they want to retire and they just don't want to do things and you give them hormone replacement and they just feel enthusiastic again They're ready to conquer the world They're having a great time

Nick: I think you hit it on the nose It is more than just muscular strength or your physique It's your entire emotional wellbeing It's your outlook on life I know that a certain point, I have a number of clients that as their hormones decline, including my own grandmother

[0:05:05] She expressed to me after she had fallen and ended up in a care center, she was crying and she just said "Nicky, I just want to pass I want to die" And I said "Grandma Muller [Phonetic], we're not ready to lose you and the family's allowed me to intervene and we're going to augment you with hormones and whole foods diet and exercise with your permission or not The family has decided we want to keep you" And she was very depressed, crying

So after we did hormone baseline test, we rubbed bioidentical hormone creams, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, DHEA So she didn't even have to take them orally We just rubbed them right on her skin We were able to do some subcutaneous, tiny little needle like they use for diabetics and right under her skin, inject some of these very important life-promoting hormones We noticed within a matter of days that she was coming back

She was starting to smile She had more energy She began eating again and we were able to give her blended drinks of whole organic fruits and vegetables blended because she just wasn't up to eating a meal yet, so she was just drinking her meals And it took us only about, I would say, three, four weeks and the hospital said that she could leave And we checked her out to her home

She hired a personal trainer and Grandma Muller said that she was listening to my cassette tapes In those days, it was cassette tapes We didn't have mp3s and computer systems at that time that I remembered And she goes "Nicky, I really love listening to your tapes" Because I wanted to fill her mind with positive thoughts, eating healthy, exercising, giving her kind of that guideline to really get back into life

And she said "Nicky, I feel so good" She goes "I hired that personal trainer but there's one problem He makes me work so hard that he makes me work out in the front lawn with the grass unmown and I have to lift my legs really high, but man, is he sexy" I mean, everything came back She's 90 and telling me that the personal trainer is sexy

So you think about it We were blessed to have her with us another three or four years until there was another accident, then she got transferred to another facility and it was very difficult to intervene As you may know, hospitals and doctors somehow have a bias against people passed the age of 70, 80, 90 They just say "Well, what do you expect? You're at the end of your life Why would you even try and help this person to recover?" I mean, what if we said that about Einstein or any of these greats in history that we just give up on them yet we have the technology now to turn virtually every care center around and augment Delgado Protocol type approach with herbs and supplements and hormones and positive thoughts, and we probably would curtail the end stage of death, that it would be instead of a miserable death, it would be a quiet gentle loving death instead of one where we're froth with IVs and drugs and pills and they're drugged out and can't even recognize who they are, like they did to my father

Michael: I think that you're speaking about a social complexity where the traditional physicians don't believe that replacing hormones in a natural way to a youthful level is something that should be done to everybody And there's no reason logically why they don't believe it Nick: Well, they say there's no medical indication to intervene in hormone deficiency, right? So aging is part of life so deal with it Sit with it Go ahead and die early, miserably

Michael: When I was in medical school, 1970s, I was taught that the reason why women were so depressed when they went to menopause is because they couldn't have babies anymore And that's why were depressed That's what I was taught I was also taught that people got diabetes because it was just a genetic event, and when I told them I thought it related to what they were eating and they were eating too much sugar and Coke and Coca Cola, they laughed at me My professors laughed at me

They thought it was funny They just dismissed me like it was a funny thing So we have certain conventional beliefs in medicine that just because everyone believes it, they think that's the way it is It's clear to people who look at the research that we can keep people feeling youthful when we use human bioidentical hormone in moderate doses to replace it [0:10:12] There's been so many studies

There were three studies that came out in the last year One study was a terrible study that questioned whether testosterone was good or bad It wasn't clear The other two studies clearly showed that men lived longer, got less heart disease, got less cancer, less brain dysfunction, live longer if they have hormone replacement And there's so many studies

One study after the other comes out that says it's helpful But the Stanton medical community confuses synthetic non-bioidentical, non-human hormones like Provera which is medroxyprogesterone and confuses that with natural human progesterone and says "Well, they're more or less the same thing" They're not the same thing One is human and one is synthetic Nick: And it's synthetic because the pharmaceutical company knew they can match progesterone and give it to humans as it was intended, but they can't control the money, the prescription, therefore, other pharmaceuticals would release the same product and they could make a profit

So they had to alter that human — you know they can take it right from wild yam extract, make it identical to progesterone in a female that she needs They have to alter it slightly and tell us, tell the doctors a lie to you Michael: So medroxyprogesterone has a value if you're bleeding to death, but to use it on a regular basis causes cancer and heart disease Nick: The same with hydrocortisone They changed it even though cortisol's identical and it can be made identical when they made it a form of cortisol that lasts even five milligrams, lasts for days in the body

It's so dangerous when it's synthesized that it's too potent and it causes harmful side effects So the medical profession, yet they tell them that hydrocortisone was a wonder drug for arthritis, for inflammation It reversed diseases, but when they use the synthetic version, it was so strong Initially get got result but then the strength of it was overwhelming to the body and it had horrible side effects So doctors gave up on the cortical steroids is what it's called essentially, right? Michael: And what you're saying is absolutely true about those things

Those cortisone type medicines are a lot of long term side effects, but they're very potent If you have an allergic reaction and you might be dying, you want the potent stuff so you can survive But for ongoing use, it's not a good idea The other thing that happens is that I will use as you will use low doses of the hydrocortisone, not full replacement So the human body may make 25 to 35 milligrams of hydrocortisone

You could take someone who's stressed out, feeling terrible, can't get up in the morning, can't function, is irritable, and you can give them low doses of hydrocortisone, five milligrams to ten milligrams, maybe even up to 20 milligrams Nick: Well, the body produces 40 milligrams a day So five, ten, 20 milligrams is right in there Michael: It's not full replacement but it supports your own body and then you feel great, but traditional doctors think that that's worthless Either you're going to overwhelm the body with these synthetics or give them nothing

They think it's all or nothing And you and I know we've treated hundreds and thousands of people People feel really good temporarily with replacement, then you get their lifestyle in order, then you get their diet in order You get them on herbs and you get their own adrenal glands producing cortisol as they're supposed to But in the meantime, they can function and they feel good and it's a bridge to get them back to feeling normal

But traditional doctors have this mindset that either we overwhelm and take over your body with the synthetics or nothing Nick: Well, Dr Edwin Lee who's claimed or calls himself a reformed endocrinologist He is now dealt with what they call adrenal fatigue and his colleagues in endocrinology which is the study of hormones and the specialty of hormone practice makes fun of it They said that there's no such thing as adrenal fatigue

This doesn't exist But he himself experienced it He started taking hormone replacement such as hydrocortisone low dose, and he had a dramatic turnaround He realized that likewise with thyroid His own wife had a thyroid deficiency

Instead of using the normal Synthroid which is just T4, he realized he needed the complete complex of T3 and T4 and he gives his wife what's called Westhroid and it gives them that full complement, similar to Armour and he's treating her thyroid condition in a non-traditional sense which his fellow endocrinologists would argue that's not the correct way to do it, and yet he's seen the results [0:15:09] So many doctors are now starting to come around and realizing their error in their ways, and that there is a better way But really, I want to backtrack for a moment because the topic of longevity and immortality and quality of life, would you agree that these six steps here on the slide that they're actually essential to improving the quality life? Whole raw foods, food is grown unprocessed, not in cans and packages, but essentially little or no processing, like a beet is good for you but the sugar is not, the sugar that comes from the beet That coconut is good for you but the coconut oil that comes from it is too concentrated We'll have side effects and problems

Olives are good for you The olive oil has problems Each of these examples is an example of taking a whole food and to man intervention, changing that food so much so that it's not even the same original food, and many of these processes have only developed in the last, say, 100 years or so, not going back five million if we believe man goes back maybe 10, maybe even 20 million years Michael: I would agree with that, and I would add that with modern technology with growing foods and you'd think something's a whole food but it's not because it's not processed in a natural organic way, and there's so many nutrients that are lacking in the foods So that's the complexity and you definitely want to have whole foods as you're describing it, and even those people who tried to do it, you need to supplement things frequently with herbs and nutrients to be able to make up for what should have been in the food but is no longer there

Nick: Yeah, targeted nutrients whether it be trace minerals or special forms of B vitamins that are highly absorbable that may be, like you said, the food itself I remember the experience of going to Indonesia, in Bali, and looking at the soil, it was so rich and black Our soil looks like clay It's like a light color It doesn't have that rich black look

And I remember one of my colleagues said take a pair of electrodes and stick them, the positive, negative electrode into a carrot or into a squash and hook it up to a light bulb And I said "Why?" He said, "Well, if there's a lot of nutrients and trace minerals, the light bulb will light up" So we went ahead and did it and we grabbed all kinds of fruits and vegetables looked identical to the fruits and vegetables in our market in Indonesia, in Bali Stuck the electrodes in and the light was so bright, we had to literally turn our eyes away because it was that bright Then we did the same experiment on the same types of carrots, squash, broccoli, and so forth

Stuck the electrodes in and the light bulb barely glimmered You couldn't even get a light out of it It was so deficient just by that simple experiment alone Michael: Yes, you reminding me when I went to Southeast Asia, 1970s I was shocked by the fruit

It was so sweet It tasted — I've eaten mangoes But this was like not like any mango I've eaten before Pineapple, not like any pineapple I've eaten before It's like a different kind of thing

So that's a problem with the foods we grow in America is that the soil is depleted and we do need to supplement what we're doing And we can measure things so you and I know that we'll measure urinary and saliva pH to make sure that people are eating a diet that will balance out the physiology that will allow for health in the kidneys, and allow for health with the enzyme and digestion So this is something that you can find out how well you're eating in a variety of ways that you can measure your pH and tell if you're eating enough vegetables that create more alkaline in the body and you can measure antioxidant levels to see if are you eating enough vegetables to create carotenoids that get stored in your skin and allow you to have a reservoir of antioxidants So we can measure variety of methods of looking at — I find that the average person comes in to see me is terrible deficient in antioxidants, is not doing well with their alkaline acid balance and some people think that they're eating healthy and they're not We really have to work at it

It's not easy It's something we have to work on Nick: I think the number one factor that could help people, according to the book How Not to Die by Michael Greger, would be to focus on learning how to identify the right whole natural foods that, in his words, could eradicate 16 of the leading 20 killers almost within instant of just transitioning to that whole foods, oil-free, natural diet [0:20:11] Although many of the lifestyle medicine doctors, they have been led to believe that every nutrients is attainable from the whole foods In my experience of 40 years of looking under a microscope at cellular health and doing these various other examinations, I found that I was deficient as were most of my clients until I learned how to get targeted nutrition and supplements and herbs and eat the right foods whether they be imported or just getting a bigger variety of what we call the colors of the rainbow where cauliflower might be normal white but you can get purple cauliflower

I mean, all these carotenoids and flavonoids, there's probably 320,000 different phytochemicals that we can get from eating whole foods, by eating a greater variety And the number one most deficient food in the American diet that would attribute to a better outcome in longevity of life, can anyone guess what that food is? The main category of food that's sorely deficient in the American diet that most people avoid because they think it's literally bad for you They say "Oh, it's sugar You can't eat it" What is it? I give you a clue

Who said it? Fruit The average person restricts their fruit intake and yet Dr Greger showed that fruit has polyphenols and it stabilizes the blood sugar, the sugars that you're eating from the fruit so you won't become diabetic In fact, Dr Kempner, in the 1940s to 50s, took people and put them on massive amounts of fruit and rice, and they were diabetic, and they were on insulin, and they had kidney failure

So he was challenged with a number of problems, but here's a prestigious university, Duke University, and he had the average person eating 10 to 20 pieces of fruit a day along with rice And in the first month, they were prepared to give them more insulin because they're like "Oh, my gosh, we're loading them up with too much sugar" That was their mentality as it is to this day, and they were shocked that within 30 days, the average person was completely off their insulin and almost normalize their blood sugar, and their insulin requirements dropped to near zero eating tons of fruit I encourage everyone to eat more fruit and there's a clinical study now that Dr Greger pointed out in my interview with him and I've looked up the actual journals that shows that just increasing your fruit intake to 10 or 15 — I probably eat 10 or 15 pieces of fruit a day

That means a whole apple, and orange, a mango, a cantaloupe, well those are bigger portions there, watermelon You name it, berries Berries are wonderful All these fruits are so good and you know what? The average cup of fruit with exception of banana and mango which is probably about 100 calories per cup — the average cup of fruit has only 60 calories So if you eat ten cups of fruit, that's only 600 calories

And it tastes so good It's high in fiber, high in enzymes, and yet anyone — let me see a show of hands How many here eat at least ten pieces of fruit a day or more? Let me see a show of hands One person in the entire — two people in the entire audience One who's been in my mentorship who knows about this, and myself who eats about 10 or 15

This morning, I did a live stream on Facebook and I weighed myself About six months ago, it was my goal to achieve an ideal weight of what I weighed when I was in high school, a running back, a full back in high school This morning, I weighed 169 It happens to be my ideal number, my favorite number, but I weighed 169 this morning and I backtracked and it took me about nine months, about the same time it takes to make a baby, a human being, and I already patterned out that I'll eat massive amounts of grapes, apples, bananas, berries, all kinds of — the best fruits are the ones high in water content because you bite into the berry and it squirts all over you Water has no calories, and the polyphenols stabilize the blood sugar so I didn't have any insulin resistance

My insulin levels were measuring under two doctors You know under two Most people have five, seven, and higher, right? So eating fruit is your number one factor to longevity in your diet and it'll help you — how many here need to lose a little bit of weight? Let me see a show of hands Oh, look at the hands go quick So why aren't you eating at least ten pieces of fruit a day? Why? Because you've been led to believe by the media that fruit is bad

It's sugar and you can't eat it All these sugar-holic people that are saying sugar's the number one risk factor, I'm going to flip that over for you Maybe Dr Grossman does or doesn't agree with this, but Pritikin taught me this over 40 years ago He said the number one worst thing you can consume in your diet is anything high in cholesterol

Number one, because it leads to more strokes, more heart attacks, more cancer than any other nutrient in the body, and chicken and fish has as much cholesterol as red meat So all of you who think, "Well, I don't eat red meat I'm careful about my cholesterol intake" Really? If you're getting your plant protein, if you're getting your animal proteins instead of plant proteins, you're loading your body with cholesterol and clogging your arteries [0:25:05] Your body can only get rid of 100 milligrams of cholesterol a day

Anything more than that and it starts to clog your arteries If you're eating plant proteins, there's no cholesterol in it, zero So you can eat as much as you want and not overload your body with cholesterol The number two worst food offender is things high in separated fats, oils and greases, cheeses and meats that are high in fat Number two worst

Number three worst, anyone have a guess? What's the number three worst thing you consume on a regular basis that will harm your body more than anything? I'll give you a tip The Chinese study Dr [0:25:38] [Indiscernible] in Campbell said it was one of the number one causes of cancer, pancreatic cancer For example, one of the number one leading causes of lymphomas and horrible blood cancers and leukemia comes from this particular food that everyone eats at Kentucky Fried — yeah Number three worst on the list is over consuming animal proteins

Number three Number four would be foods high in sugar What would be number five worst, but least worst than the ones above I listed? Any idea? No guesses? Well, dairy is a subgroup of the category So we said, what was number one? Let's rehearse What was number one? Cholesterol

And does cholesterol only come from meat? Name one of the highest sources of cholesterol that you eat for breakfast Eggs Number two, fat, excess fat Where does excess fat come from? The worst source of fat is excess oils, coconut oil, olive oil, sunflower oil It takes hundreds of years of corn to make small amounts of corn oil so you would — hundreds of olives to make you a little bit of olive oil

It clumps your blood up It causes restriction of oxygen Dr Terry Grossman, I interviewed him eight months ago and he said it was my interview with him that caused him to understand this principle that he was eating too much animal — what's the worst thing you can eat? Number three? Animal protein So you switch to plant protein

Dr Terry Grossman got this clear and I looked at his blood under the microscope and he said in the last eight months since I interviewed him, he's never felt so good, so clear He dropped 15 pounds of body fat and he is the doctor to Ray Kurzweil who is the consultant to Google who spends billions of dollars in trying to figure out aging And he said Ray eats hamburgers He eats horrible

And he was sending pictures of his own blood after following the Delgado Protocol Is that like really cool? I have to show you Can we patch into that interview, guys? The Terry Grossman Did you segment that out, Anthony? Is that possible? At the break can we? Anthony: Yeah Nick: Cool

Number four What did we say it was? Cholesterol, fat, protein What was the fourth worst? Sugar Gosh, Deborah Deborah and I met over 20 years ago to Tony Robbins' event where I checked her blood and I was testing over a thousand people that audience and here she is back over 20 years ago, one of my early students

Number five, no one's figured out what's the fifth worst thing on the list No We're talking about categories of — yes, salt Salt in excess If you read the book Our Body's Many Cries for Water, you'll realize a little bit of salt on a high water, high fruit diet, high plant-based diet that's not with a lot of canned food loaded with sodium is okay

A little bit of sea salt particularly rich in trace minerals So I would put at the bottom of the list, six, I mean, all the miscellaneous Well, soda would be part of the sugar thing, right? I mean, what else? Number six would be additives, food additives, colors, chemicals, GMO foods Number six would be just all that host I mean, we have like thousands of chemicals in our diet that were never present before, right, Doctor? Michael: Many thousands

Nick: You have a comment, [0:29:29] [Indiscernible] Male: I have a question So the salt — aren't you getting the minerals that you're trying to get from salt when you take the inorganic ones, aren't they not really utilized by the body? Aren't they the same kind of minerals in fruits and vegetables? And they've been through the soil, the same like that we're trying to get in the salt but the plants make them organic, right? [0:30:06] Nick: True They're no longer a metal They become more bio-available to the human I would go so far as to say in the Sea of Cortez, there's eight water vortexes in the world's oceans, and in these vortexes is a mix of some amazing concentrations of zooplankton and organic, bio-organic, and trace minerals

And we're pulling together a product that has the Sea of Cortez trace minerals I know when I compete in strength and endurance that I'm getting ready to compete again in about six weeks because a group of gamblers are betting a million dollars that their guy can beat me in vertical lifts You can imagine I just started training hard on the last two days Give me about six weeks and I'm going to be a little serious when you see me here every day getting stronger, faster, better But I don't like the idea of someone beating me in a million-dollar bet

And after that, I'm going to take on the Oakland Raiders one by one Whoever think they're strong enough to beat me and they are three times — what are they? One-third my age? We'll see if any human can beat me in this competition So we're going to — yeah Female: I've got another question Nick: Yeah

Female: So going to the fats and oils and you talk about coconut oil earlier So now it's the big day thing for the MTC Nick: Can you step up and can we use the runner mike a moment because I don't think anyone's recording in the audience Will this help with the mike? Male: Yeah, that helps Nick: Okay, perfect

Go ahead Female: Okay, so you were talking about coconut and you're talking about the oil and how pulling out like the sugar out of beets, et cetera So what about now, everybody's doing the coconut oil in their coffee called Bullet Coffee MTC Is it MTC? Nick: Yeah Female: Okay

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